Pair Of Vestax Pdx 2000 For Sale [Archive]

DJTC

16-01-2005, 11:46 PM

why so we can look like puffs and twiddle nobbs all day long? :myarse:

First off them Vestax arent coverd in useless Function's , they are a better turn table , far more sterdy , i am in to scratching so with there strait tone arm's and there high torqu motor's they simpley out perform Thechincs in every way , no silly over priced needle's , no over priced butter rug slip matt's and no fkin fkin coin's stuck to the head shell's as many people do , there just spot on strait out the box.

You do get the odd decent pair of Technic's , but they are far and few between.

Iv never played in a club and found a good pair of Technics , not anywhere and iv played load's of place's

the simple things are always the best mate!! and if vestax are that great :haha: why you gettin' rid??????????????? :hmm:[/QUOTE]

The main reason im getting rid of is i need to rais money fo a mixing desk , iv paid half but i need the rest now ,also iv got a pair of Numark TTX's and i havent got the space for all 4 in my new pad so the Vestax are just collecting dust in the corner coz the Numakr are a bit better , but there isnt much in it realy , there just newer.

DJTC

16-01-2005, 11:56 PM

@ Poi .

There 2 year's old spot on condtion , i will say a couple of small scratch'es on the side of one , but that's it dude , they are still safe !

Iv got the box for one of em , i filled one of em up with shit when i moved mate , they have cart's and head shell's too.

Look mate dont listen to the bullshit mate , you come to my house you can have a go and youl see what im talking about .

Ther not gimick's , ther just tool's for the more creative d.j , simple as mate , Technics are like corn flake's mate , there alright but you wouldn buy :agree:

Trust me dude , you wont be disapointed.

poi

17-01-2005, 09:01 AM

Don't worry i've already got a pair of PDX2000's you don't need to tell me how good they are :) I wouldn't say technics are bad decks tho!

Just got an eye for a bargain..

Levity

17-01-2005, 12:57 PM

Not being funny, but I think Vestax mixers are phat, but the decks are shit. I could destroy them in a matter of weeks. Scraping pitch faders, loose tone arms etc... There's only one pair i've seen in good condition, and those were Poi's, but judging by his interest, they are playing up.

poi

17-01-2005, 12:59 PM

Mine are solid as a rock and they get their fair share of usage, in clubs too. I'll argue Vestax over Technics any day :spin:

Although i don't rate my Vestax mixer. Probably good for scratching but when it comes ot mixing whoever layed it out must have been drunk..

Levity

25-01-2005, 01:19 PM

I reckon it takes a couple of years of owning a pair of decks before you know what they are truly like. I haven't owned any Vestax decks, and when they were the talk of the town a few years back I wanted a pair. But, I can say that they are often always getting sold on somewhere with some problem with them. Technics, well I haven't owned a pair of these neither. Thing is though, they have their annoying points, but they do stay consistant with themselves ie... Get a brand new pair of Tecnics and a 5 year old pair, and chances are they'll feel no different. Other decks, do show their design faults after time.

Frisk

25-01-2005, 01:37 PM

Iv never played in a club and found a good pair of Technics , not anywhere and iv played load's of place's.

i've played loads of places too, i'm not being funny, but it's rare to go to a club and NOT play on fucked decks, whatever make they are. i rate techinics, They are better when they are set up properly (no need for pennies on needles - if they are set up properly you don't need to do this.... it fucks the needles and wears the record down quicker anyway) i'm not saying vestax are shit. they are good, i prefer technics though. i just prefer the feel of technics to vestax (for decks) their mixers are PHAT.

Matter

25-01-2005, 01:37 PM

i've had mine 4 years and they kick ass.

DJTC

27-01-2005, 04:11 PM

The bottom line is iv ownd a few pair's of Technics and i own a pair of Vestax and im telling you there's no comparison , FACT ! and anyone that know's what they are talking about will agree .

Technics are 30 years old now they have done well over the years but they cant meet the requirement's of the modern d.j .

Levity you say you could destroy a pair of Vestax in hours , dont talk shit ! I class my self as a full on turntableist and iv not broken myn , i dont give a fk what your doing with them , they will out perform a Techy any day .

Frisk you say Technics are spot on when set up corectly with no extras , i dont think so , have you ever seen a DMC heat where a d.j is using the standard Stanton 500AL and regular slipmatt's ? NO.

People go on about Technics saying ther solid , indistructable ? well how come you v never come accross a decent pair when you have played out ? ill tell you why , coz there not the legend ther made out to be , the only reason they have been top dog for so long is they had the pattent on the quartz drive motor and since they lost it 4 years ago they have been left behind , i was looking at a pair of Citronic the otherthat wer better , there just old new's now and people need to wake up to it , ther just set in ther way's coz it's bin that way for 30 years , soon Technics will discontinue the SL1210,1200 as they have with the newer model's coz they dont sell like they used to and ther such a small part of there market , then you will all be forced to convert and you will see the difference for your self.

Anyway nuff said .

Word !

Matter

27-01-2005, 06:18 PM

those numarks are meant to be heat

DJ Satis

28-01-2005, 02:52 PM

the only reason that many technics you play on are knackered is coz the clubs dont service them properly/spill drinks on em/ciggy ash etc
you tend to care less about a clubs turntables than your own when you hgave had a few bevvies.
and in what way do you think technics dont accomodate modern dj's needs?
if your a good dj you don't need fancy extras and shit to be good.
i suppose its down to preference but IMO you cant beat well serviced technics.

DJTC

01-02-2005, 02:12 AM

those numarks are meant to be heat
Oooooooooooooooooo , they are mate !

DJTC

01-02-2005, 02:18 AM

At the end of the day there is no one hear on the Technics side of the debate has actually ownd a pair of Vestax so how can you honestly say you know witch is the better of the 2 ?

You cant !

It's just hear say and opinion , it mean's fk all coz you dont really know what your talking about , im not saying your stupid , im saying you couldn know coz you'ev not own'ed a pair of Vestax so ther for , how could you know witch is the better turntable ?

The fact of the matter is ........... you dont !

End of.

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01-02-2005, 12:37 PM

It all goes back to the tired, old phrase: "industry standard"

Matter

01-02-2005, 02:44 PM

the vestax are industry standards. maybe a different industry, but there's still a lotta people got them, shit, even dry bar have them.

Frisk

01-02-2005, 05:26 PM

Frisk you say Technics are spot on when set up corectly with no extras , i dont think so , have you ever seen a DMC heat where a d.j is using the standard Stanton 500AL and regular slipmatt's ? NO.

read my post carefully. i never mentioned anything about extras. in actual fact, i have sheets of plastic under my slipmatts (thanks Bane) for sexier scratching, also have ortofon scratch OM (not the concorde ones, they cannot be aligned on bent tone arms so i have the OM's which can be attatched on an angle in line with the groove of the record.) what i mean about being set up correctly is the angles/levels of the needles and tonearms. if these are set up properly, a) your setup will rarely jump b) you will have no reason to put pennies on them, which in my opinion does more harm than good.

You should have known exactly what i was getting at by 'set up properly' being a turntablist yourself. (i'm sure you do, seeing as you have the 'correct' opinion)

It's just hear say and opinion , it mean's fk all coz you dont really know what your talking about , im not saying your stupid , im saying you couldn know coz you'ev not owned a pair of Vestax so ther for , how could you know which is the better turntable ?

i have a pair of vestax AND a pair of technics in mine (both correctly setup). Although the vestax have some good stuff that the technics don't... I prefer the technics and seeing as i have a set of both decks in question, i have enough of a basis to form an EDUCATED opinion. it's all down to preference at the end of the day.

thankyou

DJTC

03-02-2005, 10:12 AM

@ Frisk , fair enough , you have a valid point and your set up tip's do make sence so ill have to agree , and like you said , it's preference so wel have to agree to disagree , but just agree on this , Vestax are just as sturdy as any Technics and strait out of the box , no tweek's Vestax are the one's !

DJTC

03-02-2005, 10:15 AM

It all goes back to the tired, old phrase: "industry standard"
IN IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :tea: :tea:

Frisk

03-02-2005, 10:26 AM

:bthumb:

i think adam got it spot on, if you are a mad turntablist, you'll prefer vestax, if you are just a 'mix&blender' you'll prefer technics. and yeah, you probably could do alot more with a vestax straight out the box.

i still prefer technics :myarse:

:agree:

Tay

03-02-2005, 10:26 AM

The bottom line is iv ownd a few pair's of Technics and i own a pair of Vestax and im telling you there's no comparison , FACT ! and anyone that know's what they are talking about will agree .

Nope its not fact its your opinion and im sure more than half the dj's on this site will agree with me. I have mixed on Technics, vestax and stantons and i still love technics. I have also played on quite a few pairs of technics in clubs and not had any problems, i had more trouble when using levitys stantons and poi's vestax! they seem to speed up and slow down much more than technics when u touch them slightly. But i suppose it also depends on what u use at home, because u get used to them with practise. One thing i found very useful on the stantons was the high range of pitch.. very useful when your mixing old christmas tunes into dnb! :)

TRINGY

03-02-2005, 12:46 PM

.. very useful when your mixing old christmas tunes into dnb! :)

:agree: u know dis

Levity

23-02-2005, 01:23 PM

Levity you say you could destroy a pair of Vestax in hours , dont talk shit ! I class my self as a full on turntableist and iv not broken myn , i dont give a fk what your doing with them , they will out perform a Techy any day .

Without sounding rude, but how the fuck do you know what I am or am not capable of. You don't know me. You ain't seen me play. You don't know my work rate in a set, so don't talk to me about talking shit!

And i'd say if you are a full turntablist, but never encounter any problems then you don't push yourself enough for the problems to show up.

As regards to your Technic v Vestax argument. You are entitled to your opinion, but your points are floored. Why don't you go work for Vestax! They'll love ya.

Matter

23-02-2005, 01:57 PM

And i'd say if you are a full turntablist, but never encounter any problems then you don't push yourself enough for the problems to show up.

I disagree, you inevitably have to work within certain parameters, which you have to stay between,

ie. you wouldn't put your full body on your tonearm.

the vestax perform much better than techs when you push it.

Levity

23-02-2005, 02:00 PM

I disagree, you inevitably have to work within certain parameters, which you have to stay between,

ie. you wouldn't put your full body on your tonearm.

the vestax perform much better than techs when you push it.

Thats obvious really. We're talking about the techniques and skills used, not actually trying to break them by doing daft things to them. Saying that though, i have seen people standing on the platter, and they still work... technics that is.

Matter

23-02-2005, 02:48 PM

it was an extreme example, dunno maybe i didn't understand your post.

I don't have a fucking clue what you would be doing to destroy a pair of vestax in hours though, what dya mean?

Frisk

23-02-2005, 03:19 PM

fire !

woody

23-02-2005, 04:03 PM

I don't like technics to be honest

explain to me how a massivley powerful motor helps you to speed up or slow down a tune when in the mix? it doesn't

on my old stantons, I could hold the spindle between my thumb and finger and apply a bit of pressure and the record would slow a bit, great when the mix is a bit off, or you could apply a bit more pressure to speed the record or slow it down quicker which was good for throwing records in quickly before they are properly beatmatched.

Try that on a 1210 and the record doesn't slow down at all, so you have to touch the side of the platter which more often than not results in a sudden slow down and drop in the pitch which is very clearly audible in the mix

and don't all tell me it's because i can't mix because ive heard plenty of big and small name dj's doing this and it sounds extremely shit.

For scratching a fast motor is clearly what you need but not for smooth mixing.

And don't try and argue because im always right as you well know.

Frisk

23-02-2005, 04:07 PM

And don't try and argue because im always right as you well know.

looks like we are in some kind of stalemate then Woodster my boy. i too have a knack of being always right. the only time i was wrong, was when i thought i was wrong !

poi

23-02-2005, 04:10 PM

Fair point woody, as long as decks hold the pitch well then you'll be able to use them fine for beatmatching - Soundlab's are a good example, although it makes for more work when cueing. However if you need to make big adjustments quickly and inadvertantly knock the platter a bit harder than you meant to it has a far more noticable effect.. Powerful motors are nice so the platter gets to the proper speed quickly.

Bo an all that!

23-02-2005, 04:55 PM

Dont touch the deck, simple, other then to que it obviously.

RobC

01-03-2005, 10:52 AM

I don't like technics to be honest
explain to me how a massivley powerful motor helps you to speed up or slow down a tune when in the mix? it doesn't

Right, I will have my two pence...

The torque delivered by a Technics/Vestax motor will hold a mix for much longer than most lower end turntables on the market. If I get two tunes beatmatched nicely on the Technics, I could go for a dump, come back and they'd still be locked tight. I see where Woody is coming from in saying that a powerful motor does not necessarily help your mixing, but it is a lot more responsive whilst adjusting the pitch. For example, If I had a 150 quid Gemini deck and a 1210 side-by-side, both with the pitch at -8 and I speeded both up to +8 at exactly the same time, the Gemini would probably take about 3 times longer to reach +8 than the Technics.

Also, Andy C is probably the most skilled big name in D&B today, people may have noticed that he very rarely touches the surface of the record while he is mixing, he might give it a little 'push' after he first lets go, but after that he pretty much relies solely on the pitch control to beatmatch the record. If he was using lower end turntables with less powerful motors then he probably wouldn't be able to mix as quickly as he does on Technics in clubs.

:spin:

Oh, and as for the old Vestax being better than Technics arguement, I know a certain Banester who has recently come to see that this may not be the case! I'm hearing more and more about Vestax not being able to stand the test of time!

Matter

01-03-2005, 12:23 PM

Also, Andy C is probably the most skilled big name in D&B today, people may have noticed that he very rarely touches the surface of the record while he is mixing, he might give it a little 'push' after he first lets go, but after that he pretty much relies solely on the pitch control to beatmatch the record. If he was using lower end turntables with less powerful motors then he probably wouldn't be able to mix as quickly as he does on Technics in clubs.

easy buddy, tell your bro to call me..

and ps. Andy C is known for cutting all his dubs at the same speed.. therefore once it's in, it's in...

Bo an all that!

01-03-2005, 12:57 PM

Really?

Matter

02-03-2005, 10:04 AM

that's my word..

Bo an all that!

02-03-2005, 12:39 PM

Wouldnt of guessed that.

Matter

02-03-2005, 01:22 PM

lol

pumakain

02-03-2005, 02:03 PM

I don't think that's true about Andy C! Urban myth...

Matter

02-03-2005, 02:50 PM

^ actually mcbane told me that. is he of questionable integrity?

edit.

and another thing, if you were playing your own dubs, would you cut them at different speeds for the hell of it?

i know i wouldn't.

so yeah

:myarse:

woody

02-03-2005, 08:17 PM

That is 100% true.

If you ask me, he cuts mixes to dub and layers samples and stuff over his dubs.

I've heard 2 deck sets from him with daft mixes and samples all over the place and mixing in the next tune 30 seconds after the first one has started, basically doing things that are not possible with 2 normal records!

woody

02-03-2005, 08:30 PM

Right, I will have my two pence...

The torque delivered by a Technics/Vestax motor will hold a mix for much longer than most lower end turntables on the market. If I get two tunes beatmatched nicely on the Technics, I could go for a dump, come back and they'd still be locked tight. I see where Woody is coming from in saying that a powerful motor does not necessarily help your mixing, but it is a lot more responsive whilst adjusting the pitch. For example, If I had a 150 quid Gemini deck and a 1210 side-by-side, both with the pitch at -8 and I speeded both up to +8 at exactly the same time, the Gemini would probably take about 3 times longer to reach +8 than the Technics.
!

Yeah agree with that one mate, I'm sure they will hold thier pitch for longer than a budget deck. The trouble is, I just think they are too hard to work with, I was playing on my mates 1200's the other day and it was well hard work!

The pitch control is so bloody stiff! I decided to stop giving myself blisters by slowing the record with my hand and try some quick pitchshifting with the pitch control but you can't grab the control and quickly move it around to change the pitch.

And his decks are only about 2 years old with hardly any use at all so they aren't knackered, he hardly ever uses em I don't think.

It seemed to take about 3 minutes just to get a tune beatmatched, i know it takes time to learn a new deck but it seeme d abit daft. I gave up in the end and just held all the mixes in time manually with my hands!

The only thing I would say is they are much better for scratching, the pick up is quality and they feel really solid so the needle didn't seem to want to skip, although I'm no turntablist!

It was fun but I came away wondering what the fuck all the fuss is about? Give me my old Stanton STR8-60's any day! agree: