Drum n Bass DJ's - why not longer sets ?

[old skool]

Just summat I've always wanted to know (well apart from other stuff like the meaning of life etc)is why do most DJ's within the Drum n Bass scene only play short sets (ie in comparison to Techno/House DJ's etc).

And do you ever get some DJ's playing like 4 hour sets or more ???

[ 25-04-2002: Message edited by: old skool ]

[Xample]

I think that with drum and bass only having a shelf life of around two weeks, and the fact that most tune are already canined even before they are out (unfortunately :mad: ) Djs have to play the freshest cuts. To do this for more than two hours means alot of dubs, and alot of money and thus i dont think Djs will do it. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

[old skool]

Fair enough... I'd fucking love to see someone like Andy C play for about 4 hours and build it and build it though .... and without an MC for once .... (but don't get me wrong I like a decent MC) ...

[Skinny G]

Xample, I don't know whether DJ's always have to play the newest tunes. Some DJ's place too much emphasis on brand new tunes, even though some of them are a bit limited. I was in 3Beat the other day and most of the new stuff was shit - the best tune there was the re-release of 'You Got Me Burning Up' by Peshay on Moving Shadow from fucking moons ago. I've got tunes from the last couple of years that have hardly played in the clubs and that you could easily get away with in a set now. Quality of tune is the most important thing not how old they are! Of course, thats just my opinion........

[deejay_platinum]

I'm with the skinny man on this one.

[void_manchester]

Originally posted by Skinny G:
Xample, I don't know whether DJ's always have to play the newest tunes. Some DJ's place too much emphasis on brand new tunes, even though some of them are a bit limited. I was in 3Beat the other day and most of the new stuff was shit - the best tune there was the re-release of 'You Got Me Burning Up' by Peshay on Moving Shadow from fucking moons ago. I've got tunes from the last couple of years that have hardly played in the clubs and that you could easily get away with in a set now. Quality of tune is the most important thing not how old they are! Of course, thats just my opinion........


agree with you about the selection, i always prefer when there a couple of forgotten old tracks dropped in, playing dubs all the time cuts the scene up a bit in my opinion, can become a bit elitist and even more difficult for new people to break through....

oh yeah, that peshay tune is pretty new, and its not on Moving Shadow is it???

[Skinny G]

Void:
If its the same "You Got Me Burning Up" that I was talking about then its from 1994 or something like that originally. Is it the one with the sample at the beginning that goes "You see house is a feelin'"? cos if it is then its older than the trees <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

[Bumfat]

twice can be ok but no matter how good a tune is it pales somewhat on its third rinsing of the night

[ad_rewind]

I don't really mind bout the length of sets... If the sets are shorter just means u can have more DJs on in a night, all havin a their own style & vibe; which aint a bad thing as far as I'm concerned. But hearing the same tune gettin caned 3 or 4 times in the space of an hour or two does kinda get a bit tired.
I'm with Skinny on the old tunes too - it's good to hear some old skool jungle mixed up with the new. I stuck a bunch of old ch00ns ona coupla CDs for a m8 the other day (stuff from '94 ish like Leviticus - The Burial, Omni Trio - Renegade Snares, Marvelous Cain - Hitman & Renegade - Terrorist) ... and those class tunes still wouldnt sound out of place played alongside the new stuff

[Xample]

Yeah thats the thing I do love hearing a few classics in a set and thats what i find annoying about some djs, they only play dubs, i agree with void in that the whole dub plate syndrome does make it elitest and that isnt how it should be cos it does make it harder for djs trying to break into the scene, also most people do like hearing a few familier tunes. I would love to see some djs play longer sets, particularly andy c. :D :D :D

[old skool]

Yeah, play some more old tunes ! Half the time the old ones are the best (fuck, I sounded like me mum then ...) and when a track everyone knows comes on, the place goes mental ...

What I'd really really love, but it ain't gonna happen, is to hear some wicked drum n bass tracks, then a couple of great techno tracks, than a really good breakz/hiphop track, in fact anything goes ... as long it makes yer ass move ...

I saw Grooverider in Sankeys a while ago play a really good techno/house set, I'd love it if he could mix that in with a drum n bass set ...

I can but dream ..

:)

[TaPh]

I agree. The dubplate scenario has always been elitist and is getting worse. Tunes like Shake ur Body/LK e.t.c get held back for a year, to the point when they are released no one wants them because theyve heard them a million times already. Winds me up bad!

The scene should be moving towards gettting the dub's out quicker and concentrate on producing newer and better material! Then we'd all be happy!

[poi]

Originally posted by old skool:
What I'd really really love, but it ain't gonna happen, is to hear some wicked drum n bass tracks, then a couple of great techno tracks, than a really good breakz/hiphop track, in fact anything goes ... as long it makes yer ass move ...


I was at a freeparty last weekend, and before the DNB soundsystem showed up (damn police keeping it out), the techno room dj's were mixing like 20 mins techno, 20 mins dnb, then into some real oldschool amen hardcore, and other mad stuff like that.

It was real interesting to hear a broad specturm of sounds mixed like that, but i have to be honest i get bored after about 5 mins when techno comes on, it's so hypnotic and monotenous!

[S Man]

I thinks dj sets would be longer if dnb nights were longer. The majority of club nights run 10-3am, depending on its licence. This leaves just 5 hrs to play with. Most djs like to play a full hour if possible.

People may disagree with me here, but here goes.

1) The dubplate is a necessary part of the scene, it will not go away!

2) I agree, it is annoyning to here 5 different djs play the same tunes in there sets.

3) There is no shame in dropping a tune that is more than "2 weeks old". (dj xample 2002)

4) I find it hard to believe that out of all the new tunes that are floating about at the moment you can't get variety in dj sets!

5) So get on your decks and come up with some good mixes and all will be well.

Cheers, rant over!
:mad: :p

[Bumfat]

i could handle longer dnb nites and sets! si> you are rockin when you get going! :)

[Lex]

Talking of old tunes - the last set played at Telepathy's 11th's Birthday at Ministry of Sound on Easter Sunday - dunno who it was (I had lost my brain by the point) was almost entirely really really old tunes and I loved it!
Whoever it was played that Big Bad and Heavy tune from years ago, Bad Ass, Chopper and loads of other stuff from the same time. It was amazing - people who had collapsed into gurning heaps in the corner suddenly lept up again and started bouncing! It was great to see!

xxx

[Xample]

Si I agree with you that there is no shame in playing older tunes, in fact that is my point I find it quite annoying, being a producer my self, that alot of tunes only get played for about two weeks, especially if you have worked hard on a tune... :mad: :D

[cookie]

Originally posted by old skool:
Just summat I've always wanted to know (well apart from other stuff like the meaning of life etc)is why do most DJ's within the Drum n Bass scene only play short sets (ie in comparison to Techno/House DJ's etc).

And do you ever get some DJ's playing like 4 hour sets or more ???

[ 25-04-2002: Message edited by: old skool ]

good point m8...

i think it maybe a money thing too most big dnb djs would want more money to play for longer(not like they get enuff as it is!!).
also a lot of the big djs have other places to play the same night so cant hang around for too long..
personaly i like playin a long set gives chance to build up a vibe and relax into it y kna mean.
oh yeh i reckon cos theres a lot of up an comin djs who the promoters wanna give chances to so they have to fit more in..

[ 29-04-2002: Message edited by: cookie ]

[12inch]

Did none of you see Andy C do a 3 hour set at Chrome in '99? Fucking smashed it.

Another reason DJ's don't do longer sets is unfortunately drum'n'bass punters like to see big lineups of more than 1 big name. to get someone like Andy C to do a 3 hour set costs nearly as much as getting say Andy C, Hype and Ed Rush to do an hour each. drum'n'bass punters are too arsed about seeing lots of big names and not 1 big name doing 3 hours.

[Bumfat]

hey im happy listening to decent dnb and im not too arsed who is playing it