Info on 1210s Mk3s

[heat]

I've been thinking about upgrading my Soundlab DLP3s for a while now and was in town on Saturday when I saw some shiny new 1210 Mk3s.

Has anyone got a pair of these - what do you think about them? The only difference between them and the mk2s I could see was a reset button for the pitch.
The mk2s have been reduced to £340 each now - the mk3s are £400.

Anyone got an opinion?

Cheers,
Heat

[Sol]

I believe they have an improved tone arm.

Also they aint got the dip at 0%.

I havent actually played on any but I've heard from others they are good. But are they £60 better. . . . U decide :D

[poi]

psst.

Have a look at Vestax PDX-2000's too. They really are rather good. And then you can tell everyone you made an informed decision whichever way you go, not that you just bought what everyone said you should (and just what WOULD everyone say?) :D :D lets not start this one shall we.. :eek:

[deejay_platinum]

hahahaa, poi you crack me up.

[poi]

platinum i think we're gonna have to step outside mate. or, i know
we'll take it from #drumandbass, to, the #carpark .

bring it onnnn!!!
:D ;) :eek: :rolleyes: :cool: :D

[S Man]

Heat Mate,

Get a set of 1200 or 1210 Mark II, the pitch thing on the Mark III is it bit gimicky for me, as it is very rare that i play D&B at its original pitch, with £60 you save you can by more tunes.

EZ

Si Smith ;) :p

[heat]

Cheers. Probably not worth the extra £120 then. I'll put that towards a better mixer.

Poi - I will look at the Vestax option before parting with cash. I've used Technics before but I've never had a chance to play with the Vestax.

[deejay_platinum]

Personally, as an economics student I think you've all fallen into the brand trap. (they're all the same!)

Put a world class athelete in some hi-tec trainers and they'd probably still break a few records.

That's why I opted for the gemini PT-2400... coz I know I got skills and could probably mix with a blender :p

[Bane]

Im with Poi on this, personally i prefer the Vestax 2000's as they are the best thing ive ever bought, (in terms of beat matching, scratching, speed responce) although i am quite sketchy when i play out on Technics for the first half hour.

But, its personal preference, (me and poi know the score). If you want to have a proper feel for Technics when you play out then buy Technics, they are a good deck but in mind not as good.

[D-Tails]

TechnicsTechnicsTechnicsTechnicsTechnicsTechnicsTe chnicsTechnicsTechnicsTechnicsTechnicsTechnicsTech nicsTechnics shall i go on...I bought 1210 mk3s just cos there the newest ones...HaHAHa your just jealous..I do think the reset button is a bit shit but then i havnt played around with it to much..BUT the Tone Arm is better than the earlir version i think(My opinion).

Go get technics m8 or im commin to findYa

[Xample]

I personally think you should get some Kam belt drives, they are well good I herd that Dj Craze has just sold off his gold technics deck he won at the DMC championships to buy a set!!! :D :D :D

[poi]

GONE4SMOKE: you've used vestax extensively then? I somehow think not ;)

I'm not saying Vestax are better (I've used Vestax a hell of a lot more so sure i'm biased), and of course i prefer them because i'm used to them, but performance-wise they do seem to hold the upper peg.

But hey if i was devoted to Technics and had used them more, i'm sure i'd be the other way. Just make an informed decision!

[Xample]

I agree with you Poi vestex are the better deck in terms of performance, the drive is better, and also the straight arm is better as I find it is very unusual for them to skip, I also think stylus's last alot longer on them.

[darka]

Techinics r the industry standard, be they 1200s 1210s, mk3s, whatever.
Ive got a pair of 1200s and they are the best investment i have ever made. I would not advise getting the mk3s,only because of the extra expense for what seems to me minimal improvement.
If u r serious about getting a pair i would also concider buying secondhand because u can save a packet and, generally, not much can actually go wrong with them.
Admitely, i havent played on the vestax decks much,i can see that alot of their appeal may be justified. however, you can be certain of quality, durable, strong, easy-to-use decks with technics. I have never heard of any extra or feature that would sway me towards the vestax, aside from the extra pitch they give you, which isnt essential to mixin dnb anyway.
Bottom line, dont buy mk3s unless u r overly flush. Possibly vestax, research them well before hand. Technics, safe and reliable.

[heat]

@Platinum - branding? Of course I'm in the trap. I don't buy Netto beans, I'm a Heinz man down the line :p :D

Whole can of worms opened up here - I fancy 1210s because I know they're good. If I can I'll try to play about with the Vestax but I can't see me getting a good session in Practical Hi Fi before I get kicked out :)

[poi]

yep thats one thing darka - vestax have yet to stand the test of time. will they last 20 years like the technics do? we shall have to wait and see!

i dont think the extra features are worth anything, i rarely even use the +/-50% pitch.

[deejay_platinum]

Heat...
hahaha, netto beanz are klass!

Why don't you just buy one of each you whingin' bitch!?
One technics and one Vestax.

When I order my second turntable on friday i'm gonna get a gemini SA - 2400 (to go with my PT- 2400), so i'll have odd decks but what you gonna do, I can't decide whether or not I like straight arms, this should help me. :p

[poi]

platinum = oddball

:D :eek: :D

[Xample]

Get the straight arms they are well good they dont skip very often :D :D :D

[deejay_platinum]

thanks poi :p

xample, yeah that's what i've heard about 'em
but you just look at your shitty hi-fi
what do you see on that shitty hi fi??

A very 80s lookin' plastic straight arm!!!

the "S" shaped arm must have been introduced for some reason, until I find out why i refuse to believe that straight arms are any better.

Could just be an "extention strategy" to make me buy more turntables for all I know.

[poi]

it's something along the lines of..

s-shaped arms produce an inward (centrifugal?) force at the needle, whereas the straight tone arm models dont, hence why there is no anti-skate adjustment on the straight-arm decks (no need for it).

so if there is no inward force, they'd be less likely to skip? i'm just thinking this through in my head here, i dont really know for sure but thats as i understand it.. perhaps less needle wear too?