Starting Out!!!

[Ikoko]

Think it's time for me to get of the Music 3000 (many hours of enjoyment though) on me Playstation and onto something solid.

I've got a PC, Amps, Speakers, a sub (my baby) :boh: , DJ stuff (Decks, Couple of mixes).

My next step seems Software? Reason2's been recommended?

What bout Hardware??? Been told it's the expensive route.?
Got a couple of grand though (Students are always skint. Ha Ha, thats what we want you to believe).:tea:

Any suggestions/tips/comments??? Greatly Appreciated. :)

Tar :confused: :alien: :thumbs:

[Humod]

Personally the only hardware I'd buy is a midi keyboard, which u can pick up for around £100. Then I'd get Cubase SX, Reason 2.5 and as many plug ins for Cubase (synths, effects, etc) as you can get. It's seen me through tune writing over the past couple of years.

[DJ React]

and you can get cubase SX off Kazaa, erm, allegedly....

[Arsta Far-I]

Hardware is dead!!!!!!!!!

just get yourself some decent plug ins and a midi keyboard and its all you'll need

reason is a very good program to start with cos it'll teach you basics, then move onto a grown up sequencer and you should be alright

[DJ-DS]

fuck d/l them ask around here atleast you know they wont be virused and will be fully working!

i recomend..
VST......
Cubase
Absynth
HALion<---virtual sampler type thing
Novation v station
Linplug Albino
Battery <--for drums
FM-7
Waves Plug ins vst fx
Moog Modular
thers hundreds of vst instruments and fx out there thers just a list of some that could get u started

Wave Editors that support direct X
Soundforge/WaveLab

Drum slicer to cut up breaks....
Recycle im still using the first version and it does me fine

and get a midi controller
cant realy say about hardware cos ive nevr used it but if u got spare change gt a mixing desk
And reason is good cos u can rewire it into cubase i dont use it but its good to learn with think V2 is the newest
hope that helps ya out......

[Sol]

Originally posted by Arsta Far-I
Hardware is dead!!!!!!!!!

just get yourself some decent plug ins . . .

I'd like to see a plug-in give the same result as my Focusrite Compounder :agree:

There is a place for both I think :D

[Arsta Far-I]

if your just starting out you dont want to spend all your dollar on a couple of bits of hardware though?

it wont be long anyway till theres software equivalents of everything that are well up to scratch

main argument being you buy a plug in once and use lots of instances of it in a track, where as you buy your shit hot hardware reverb or similar, and you get to use it on one channel? (unless you re-record over and over)

although i'm not denying that there is some shit hot hardware out there that you cant get software replications

yet......................

[dj deval]

Originally posted by sol
There is a place for both I think :D

thats for sure!

[djrene]

I guarentee hardware will go the route of non-midi analog synths. Something new came along and everybody wanted the new shiny midi keyboards.

.... scroll ahead 10 years later and everybody wants classic analogue synths. Hardware will come back someday... believe.

[daze]

if people HAD TO PAY for software they might think a little different?

[supressor]

good points but a decent bit of outboard digital hardware usually has a distinctive sound due to the dacs and stuff it has which arent easy to model in software and most softsynths are still catching up with mid range hardware ( aliasing noise is a big drawback with most of the freebie/cheap soft synths at the moment) but gotta admit the native instruments stuff is fan -fucking-tastic..but you can get external sound modules that run vst plugins so you get the best of both worlds..i guess it also depends what kind of stuff your creating anyway.. say what ya like about hardware being dead but i aint gonna bin me triton just yet! :guitar:

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[RobC]

Originally posted by protakol
but as far as sound modules, digital reverb, out bourd gear etc, what difference is there between a dsp chip and a pc. none. apart from software is cheaper more versatile and can be copied.

That's very true mate, at the end of the day they are both just microchips and DSPs. However, most high end outboard gear provides a hell of a lot more raw processing power dedicated to the task in hand than you would get by just running some Lexicon reverb plugin on your sequencer, the hardware will always produce a smoother, more detailed reverb than the software. Don't get me wrong though, modern software does sound much better now than it used to...

I know which I'd rather have.

:guitar:

[Tay]

and you can get cubase SX off Kazaa, erm, allegedly....

is it safe to download cubase off kazaa?? my brother downloaded reason and it gave our comp a virus so i havn't tried since.
but it would be a big help to have cubase at home aswell as college,

any ideas anyone?:conf:
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